Issaquah Noon Hoops
Arbitrary stats and commentary by Zach about M/W/F noon hoops at the Issaquah Community Center.
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Sunday, May 22, 2011
Wednesday, February 2, 2011
Why...
Thanks for the nice posts and emails about the blog. Many guys asked why I stopped, while there were lots of little reasons, mostly it was a couple of main reasons...
1. There were many guys that at one time or another expressed bumming or angst over there W/L performance either in general or for a particular day. The last thing I want to do is add to anyone's bumming out by shining a light on a performance they are not happy with. No one asked to participate in my blog and I don't want to make noon hoops any less fun for anyone because I'm publishing results that bum them out. This was true for guys rated low, medium and high. Everyone's expectation for their own performance is highly relative.
2. It takes a more than a little bit of attention/focus to remember and/or write down the results of all the games. While I like having the data to do the blog, it takes some of the "hanging out" aspect away from me. Always having to remember after the game to record the results just takes me out of the "noon hoops experience" and sometimes it's nice to just lose in peace.
3. If I don't stop the blog, I can't someday have a Triumphant Return! (just kidding on this one)
1. There were many guys that at one time or another expressed bumming or angst over there W/L performance either in general or for a particular day. The last thing I want to do is add to anyone's bumming out by shining a light on a performance they are not happy with. No one asked to participate in my blog and I don't want to make noon hoops any less fun for anyone because I'm publishing results that bum them out. This was true for guys rated low, medium and high. Everyone's expectation for their own performance is highly relative.
2. It takes a more than a little bit of attention/focus to remember and/or write down the results of all the games. While I like having the data to do the blog, it takes some of the "hanging out" aspect away from me. Always having to remember after the game to record the results just takes me out of the "noon hoops experience" and sometimes it's nice to just lose in peace.
3. If I don't stop the blog, I can't someday have a Triumphant Return! (just kidding on this one)
Monday, January 31, 2011
Saturday, January 29, 2011
Power Ratings II
New-fangled ultra sophista-ma-cated coolio Power Rankings.
As I wrote before, the previous PR took your winning % and adjusted it by comparing it to the number of times your teammates were favorites or dogs, thus comparing your win% to the average win% of someone who played with your exact schedule of games. So guys who played on better than avg teams win% was adjusted down, and visa versa.
Now, I have gone further and not just looked at if you were favs or dogs, but by how much you were favs or dogs. If your team was average, playing a team with four 55% winners would be a lot easier than one with four 65% winners and you would be expected to win that a little more often. So I compared every game - who your teammates and opponents were, and how much the avg player would be expected to win or lose in that situation and compared it to your wins.
Then, I had to go a little further... Since you influence the outcomes of the games you are in (for the better or the worse), I had to look at your opponents and teammates stats in the games where you weren't a participant. Because some of the reason that it looks like Anthony had an easy schedule is because the guys who play against him lose a lot and that is a subset of their total stats. So I had to see how they did in games he wasn't in to compare.
Anyway, no one really cares about the math, so here are the new Power Rankings...
AdjSOS = Adjusted Strength of Schedule. The measure of how good or bad your average teammates and opponents have been. Positive numbers mean that your schedule has been easier than average, negative numbers mean it has been more difficult than average. Keep in mind, this is already factored into the Power Ranking, I just put it here for reference. So if it seems that you are always on crappy teams, now you know for sure. Tony & Keith have had the worst luck, Mike & Anthony the best. Again, this stat does NOT include your own numbers, so Ant & Mike don't have a favorable schedule because of their own individual win% - it's strictly based on who their teammates and opponents were, but you can probably guess that they have played together (and with Marc) quite a few times.
As I wrote before, the previous PR took your winning % and adjusted it by comparing it to the number of times your teammates were favorites or dogs, thus comparing your win% to the average win% of someone who played with your exact schedule of games. So guys who played on better than avg teams win% was adjusted down, and visa versa.
Now, I have gone further and not just looked at if you were favs or dogs, but by how much you were favs or dogs. If your team was average, playing a team with four 55% winners would be a lot easier than one with four 65% winners and you would be expected to win that a little more often. So I compared every game - who your teammates and opponents were, and how much the avg player would be expected to win or lose in that situation and compared it to your wins.
Then, I had to go a little further... Since you influence the outcomes of the games you are in (for the better or the worse), I had to look at your opponents and teammates stats in the games where you weren't a participant. Because some of the reason that it looks like Anthony had an easy schedule is because the guys who play against him lose a lot and that is a subset of their total stats. So I had to see how they did in games he wasn't in to compare.
Anyway, no one really cares about the math, so here are the new Power Rankings...
AdjSOS = Adjusted Strength of Schedule. The measure of how good or bad your average teammates and opponents have been. Positive numbers mean that your schedule has been easier than average, negative numbers mean it has been more difficult than average. Keep in mind, this is already factored into the Power Ranking, I just put it here for reference. So if it seems that you are always on crappy teams, now you know for sure. Tony & Keith have had the worst luck, Mike & Anthony the best. Again, this stat does NOT include your own numbers, so Ant & Mike don't have a favorable schedule because of their own individual win% - it's strictly based on who their teammates and opponents were, but you can probably guess that they have played together (and with Marc) quite a few times.
Props for the NHL
In a rare non-hoop-related post, gotta give tremendous props to the NHL for their All-Star Game team selection. If you don't already know, for the game, instead of splitting the teams by Conference or USA vs The World, they selected two captains and then HAD A DRAFT! That's right, the two captains chose up sides for the All-Star Game. Pity poor Phil Kessel who was picked last. Yeah, he's still one of the Top 40 hockey players in the world because he's an NHL All-Star, but last is last.
By the way, does anyone cool say "props" anymore?
By the way, does anyone cool say "props" anymore?
Friday, January 28, 2011
Saving their Energy for Friday Night
22 guys today. Another day of sluggish games. Lots of walking the ball up and buddy vs buddy one-on-one. But that's hoops at ICC. Here are today's stats. Ant & Evan went undefeated. Not saying Evan didn't play well, but he sure was blessed with some great teammates all day, 66% on average is huge. Hard to lose no matter who you are if you have 3 teammates who all individually win 2/3 of the time.
Here are the cumulative stats if you have played at least 15 games... Congrats to Erik on hitting the century mark on games played. I now have over 200 games recorded.
More later.
Here are the cumulative stats if you have played at least 15 games... Congrats to Erik on hitting the century mark on games played. I now have over 200 games recorded.
More later.
Thursday, January 27, 2011
Improved Power Ratings Coming
After Friday's games, I'm gonna have updated Power Rankings. The previous Power Rankings took into account if your teammates were better/worse than your opponents and then compared your W/L to your anticipated W/L based on if your mates vs opponents were Favs or Underdogs (Favs consistently win 80% of the time).
Now, I've made them MUCH smarter. Now I take into account BY HOW MUCH your mates vs opponents were favs or underdogs, because losing as an 80% underdog is much more understandable and tolerable than losing as 5% underdog, and so on. Essentially, I've now created a Strength of Schedule stat to augment your winning % and produce the new Power Ranking.
Just to illustrate the point, if I won half of my games with teammates that all sucked while playing great opponents, that would mean I'm much better and different than if I won half my games playing with great teammates against crappy opponents. So, the new Rankings will function like the old ones except that instead of just adjusting your win% by the number of times your teammates were favs/underdogs, it will be adjusted by HOW MUCH they were favs/underdogs by.
Surprisingly, to add insult to injury, Anthony has had the 2nd easiest schedule of anyone who has played a bunch (and, yes, that DOES NOT include his own win%, just his teammates and opponents). To some extent it's possible that it's at least somewhat affected by the fact that all of Ant, Mike, Marc and Kenny tend to arrive very early which increases the propensity of them being on the same team. So, Strength of Schedule counts against his PR somewhat (good thing he wins so many damn games to compensate).
Now, I've made them MUCH smarter. Now I take into account BY HOW MUCH your mates vs opponents were favs or underdogs, because losing as an 80% underdog is much more understandable and tolerable than losing as 5% underdog, and so on. Essentially, I've now created a Strength of Schedule stat to augment your winning % and produce the new Power Ranking.
Just to illustrate the point, if I won half of my games with teammates that all sucked while playing great opponents, that would mean I'm much better and different than if I won half my games playing with great teammates against crappy opponents. So, the new Rankings will function like the old ones except that instead of just adjusting your win% by the number of times your teammates were favs/underdogs, it will be adjusted by HOW MUCH they were favs/underdogs by.
Surprisingly, to add insult to injury, Anthony has had the 2nd easiest schedule of anyone who has played a bunch (and, yes, that DOES NOT include his own win%, just his teammates and opponents). To some extent it's possible that it's at least somewhat affected by the fact that all of Ant, Mike, Marc and Kenny tend to arrive very early which increases the propensity of them being on the same team. So, Strength of Schedule counts against his PR somewhat (good thing he wins so many damn games to compensate).
The Streak is Over
Anthony finally lost today after 35 straight wins.
Everyone seemed sort of tired and half-hearted today, the games ended at 1:35 despite there being 16 in attendance. Today, half were geezers, maybe we all had to leave for the early bird special dinner at 4pm at Country Buffet and that's why it ended early.
Here are today's stats, first time since Dec 8th that no one went undefeated...
Everyone seemed sort of tired and half-hearted today, the games ended at 1:35 despite there being 16 in attendance. Today, half were geezers, maybe we all had to leave for the early bird special dinner at 4pm at Country Buffet and that's why it ended early.
Here are today's stats, first time since Dec 8th that no one went undefeated...
Here is the Mega-Chart, chock full o' fun. Cumulative W/L, %, avg teammates & opponents, Streaks and GWS... sorted by alpha ... only for players with at least 10 games played. Remember, you can click on any chart to zoom...
Wednesday, January 26, 2011
Tuesday, January 25, 2011
2005 Noon Hoops All-Star Game
In case you missed Jack's link - courtesy of Leeper Enterprises...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUH-DSoB0e0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUH-DSoB0e0
1977 NBA All-Star Game
Watched some of the '77 All-Star game on NBATV today. Two things immediately stuck out that made me think I'm playing in the wrong era.
1. They all had crazy skinny little chicken arms.
2. All the guards dribbled almost exclusively with their right (dominant) hand. You so much take it for granted that guards today use either hand - when did that happen?
I could have scored 12 pts in that game with those qualifications.
And Fucking A, Brent Musburger was doing the play-by-play. 34 years ago. And still doing NCAA Football last week. Give up the ghost, Brent. Next time I see him doing play-by-play I expect it to be the Grim Reaper doing the color/analysis.
1. They all had crazy skinny little chicken arms.
2. All the guards dribbled almost exclusively with their right (dominant) hand. You so much take it for granted that guards today use either hand - when did that happen?
I could have scored 12 pts in that game with those qualifications.
And Fucking A, Brent Musburger was doing the play-by-play. 34 years ago. And still doing NCAA Football last week. Give up the ghost, Brent. Next time I see him doing play-by-play I expect it to be the Grim Reaper doing the color/analysis.
Charity Begins on the Court
Rob, Erik and I were obviously feeling very charitable today as we gave everyone else a bunch of wins and went 0-7 as teammates all day.
Speaking of winning, Blake did a bunch of it today making 3s and snatching rebounds from the stratosphere with his height, reach & leaping ability. It's like he had web-slingers on his wrists and could snatch the ball from anywhere.
We were relatively geezer-free today (over 40 years old). With only 3 of us. Just last Friday there were 10 geezers - maybe we thought it was Bingo Night. Geezers usually account for 28% of the players. There are many budding geezers in the wings though, as several regular players are 38 or 39.
Here are Monday's numbers...
It's interesting to note that though Rob, Erik and I played on the same teams all day, Rob's avg teammates (avg 41.8 win%) were worse than my avg teammates (avg 45.7). That's because my stats include Rob as a teammate (but not myself) and Rob unfortunately had me as a teammate (but not himself). So, in other words, my avg teammates were better because I had Rob as a teammate and his were worse because he had me. Same theory goes for Erik & me and Rob & Erik. The stat is for how strong your avg teammates were not including yourself.
Here are the cumulative numbers - with everyone who has played at all (that's 75 folks).
Speaking of winning, Blake did a bunch of it today making 3s and snatching rebounds from the stratosphere with his height, reach & leaping ability. It's like he had web-slingers on his wrists and could snatch the ball from anywhere.
We were relatively geezer-free today (over 40 years old). With only 3 of us. Just last Friday there were 10 geezers - maybe we thought it was Bingo Night. Geezers usually account for 28% of the players. There are many budding geezers in the wings though, as several regular players are 38 or 39.
Here are Monday's numbers...
It's interesting to note that though Rob, Erik and I played on the same teams all day, Rob's avg teammates (avg 41.8 win%) were worse than my avg teammates (avg 45.7). That's because my stats include Rob as a teammate (but not myself) and Rob unfortunately had me as a teammate (but not himself). So, in other words, my avg teammates were better because I had Rob as a teammate and his were worse because he had me. Same theory goes for Erik & me and Rob & Erik. The stat is for how strong your avg teammates were not including yourself.
Here are the cumulative numbers - with everyone who has played at all (that's 75 folks).
Monday, January 24, 2011
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